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Rigor v. Rigidity:  Are Evidence Based Practices Dying?

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D.

From the May 2025 E-News

DBT was designed to be a principle-based treatment with some protocols imbedded in it.  What is difficult is that in learning DBT, people often struggle with the protocols to the point that they describe DBT as being overly structured and rigid.  Shari did a dive into what is being taught in graduate programs and what therapists are discussing online about evidence-based practices and about DBT.  In this video, she discusses what she found and how she conceptualizes that problem.  There is an invitation for us all to find solutions that will keep new clinicians engaged in the, often lengthy and difficult, process of learning DBT. 

Opposite Action, Mindfulness of Current Emotion and Exposure

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D. / From the April 2025 E-News

People often ask if the DBT skill of Opposite Action is exposure.  They also ask if Mindfulness of Current Emotion is exposure.  Shari Manning will discuss her thoughts about the two skills and how they fit with the DBT solution of exposure. 

Parents/Caregivers and the Month 4 Session

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the December 2024 E-News

Shari Manning released a video a few months back where she talked about the importance of the “Four Month” session with individual clients.  In the session, there is conversation about what happens at the end of the contract.  Several people wrote with questions about how to handle parents when the client is an adolescent.  This video describes how and when Shari involves parents in treatment planning for the end of contracts. 

Termination and Therapy Interfering Behaviors

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the October 2024 E-News

After the September 2024 newsletter where Shari Manning discussed the four month session and contingency management, we received several emails with questions about treating therapy interfering behaviors and termination.  In this video, Shari will discuss issues of termination in response to TIB’s.  She will also give some hints on how to stay balanced with clients when treating ongoing TIB’s. 

Contingencies Create Capabilities:  The “Four Month” Session

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the September 2024 E-News

DBT recognizes that in traditional mental health settings, clients often received more (services, contacts, treatments, etc.) when their behaviors were severe and lost those services when they made progress.  Linehan reversed those consequences by setting up contingencies that clients could renew their treatment contracts for more DBT only if they had made progress.  DBT therapists and clients evaluate progress prior to the ending of the treatment contract and contingencies are put in place for on-going treatment.  In this video, Shari Manning discusses the basics of contingency management prior to the end of the treatment contract. 

Shari’s Recommended Reference Library for DBT

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the August 2024 E-News

There are literally over one hundred “DBT” books, manuals, etc. on the market these days.  DBT therapists often say they are unclear which books are truly DBT and which are adaptations without evidence.  Shari Manning will describe the ten DBT books that she uses most frequently in her work.  She will describe each briefly and why it is on the list of her ten most used books.  She will also describe several other DBT books that she highly recommends. 

How Long is Pre-Treatment?

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the June/July 2024 E-News

There is always talk in the DBT community about how long Pre-Treatment lasts in DBT.  Is there a set number of sessions that are “Pre-Treatment Sessions” or is it until . . . ?  Shari Manning discusses the principles related to the length of DBT Pre-Treatment and issues to consider when determining how long to work with clients before moving them into DBT and out of pre-treatment. 

Thoughts on the Role of the Ex-Therapist in DBT

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the May 2024 E-News

DBT stresses the importance talking about termination throughout the course of therapy.  Contracts are used to define the length of the therapeutic relationship while ensuring that client’s do not have the experience of being punished for making improvements in their lives.  Marsha Linehan, in the section of her book Cognitive Behavioral Treatment of Borderline Personality Disorder (1993), discusses the role of the ex-therapist after the relationship is terminated.  Shari Manning presents her thoughts on the importance of defining that role. 

Why are So Many People on My Waitlist?

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the April 2024 E-News

If you read journals or watch the news, it is clear that therapists everywhere are overwhelmed with people who are seeking therapy.  This is true in the DBT world.  Shari Manning discusses possible reasons for the extensive waitlists therapists have for DBT services as well as some suggestions for how to decrease waitlists. 

It’s “Treating Willfulness”

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the March 2024 E-News

How often do you ask your client(s) if they are being willful?  What are you asking them?  What do you do when they say “yes”?  Willfulness comes up frequently in consultations.  Often, therapists cannot describe what the behavior of willfulness is and how they treat it. 

Shari Manning suggests that this could be because willfulness, as a term, is nonspecific.  In this brief video, Shari posits that “willfulness” is about emotion, cognition, contingencies or some combination thereof. 

*You may also enjoy a past video from Shari in our Video Library, “What is the Behavior of Willfulness?

Describe:  The Most Potent Interpersonal Skill

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the January 2024 E-News

DBT teaches clinicians and clients to let go of interpreting other people’s thoughts, emotions, motivations and to stay out of “what’s really” happening or what is underlying behavior.  Shari Manning makes some general comments about DBT as a non-interpretative treatment, the power of teaching the Describe skill and what makes the skill so difficult for us all. 

Taking Suicide Off the Table

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the December 2023 E-News

One of the goals of DBT is to help clients cease to have life threatening behaviors as an option in their lives.  However, getting them to a place where they can commit to “closing the door to life threatening behaviors” is a process.  In pre-treatment, clients usually can’t commit to taking suicide off the table and assuming that they can make the commitment can be very invalidating and lead to frustration early in treatment.  This brief video will review the “suicide agreement” in pre-treatment as it was written in the DBT manual, Cognitive Behavioral Treatment of Borderline Personality Disorder. 

On Learning DBT: Acceptance and Change

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the September 2023 E-News

Everyone who has begun to learn DBT seems to agree on one thing:  It’s hard. 

There are principles and protocols, strategies, and interventions, all while looking for dialectics and syntheses.  The only way to learn DBT is to practice with high intensity, highly lethal clients.  The clients other, sometimes more seasoned, therapists don’t treat because of the risk.  It’s daunting and it takes most of us years before we begin to feel any confidence or competence in doing DBT. 

People often ask me how I learned DBT when there weren’t training organizations and consultants who had proven that they could deliver DBT.  In this brief talk,  I will discuss the tensions of acceptance and change in learning DBT with some thoughts on what I believe is helpful in learning DBT. 

What is “Reassurance Seeking” and How Do We Treat It?

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the August 2023 E-News

DBT therapists often talk about targeting “reassurance seeking” with clients.  What is the behavior of reassurance seeking?  Is the phrase judgmental?  Shari Manning gives her thoughts on the phrase “reassurance seeking”, the nature/function of reassurance and how to determine targets for it in DBT. 

Reflections on Dialectical Behavior Therapy… 30 Years!

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the June 2023 E-News

Thirty years ago, in March of 1993, I began studying and working with Marsha Linehan. The DBT manual, Cognitive Behavioral Treatment of Borderline Personality Disorder, was released on May 5, 1993, Marsha Linehan’s fiftieth birthday. In this video, I highlight some of the lessons I’ve learned over the past 30 years of teaching and providing DBT… and from my hundreds of hours of conversations with Marsha before she retired. 

A Dialectical Tension in Telephone Consultation

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the May 2023 E-News

Providing 24/7 telephone consultation to DBT clients can be difficult.  Of course, when there is an increase in therapy interfering behaviors or an increase of life threatening behaviors on our caseloads, telephone consultation is crucial and can be burdensome.  DBT therapists can feel the weight of potential crisis/coaching interactions even when they are not occurring.  One therapist describe these moments as “waiting for a bomb to go off.”  Sometimes therapists feel pressure to “turn on DBT” in the moment when a call comes.  In this brief video, we will talk about the dialectic of the DBT therapist coaching after hours while being off work v. “turning on” and becoming a DBT therapist during a call. 

Getting Clients to “Accept Responsibility”

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the April 2023 E-News

Therapists and staff in programs across the continuum of care for our clients talk about getting “clients to accept responsibility for their own behaviors.”  What does DBT say about that?  In this brief video, we will delve into the phrase and discuss specific, behavioral targets for “accountability.” 

Is it Core Mindfulness Effectively, Opposite Action, or Both?

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the March 2023 E-News

Do your clients come to session and say they used Opposite Action to get there?  Do you assess to determine whether the skill used was effectively or opposite action?  Do you give corrective feedback about when and how to differentiate beteem the two.  This discussion highlights the difference between effectively and opposite action. 

The Journey of a Thousand Miles Begin with a Single Step

Insights from Helen Best, M.Ed./ From the March 2023 E-News

Do your clients come to session and say they used Opposite Action to get there?  Do you assess to determine whether the skill used was effectiveI have spent a lot of time over the last 25 years working with individuals, teams, and organizations both public and private.  I have had the benefit of participating in internal planning and processes while also being an outside observer.  Each year I marvel at how dedicated, caring, and passionately the people working so hard to learn DBT are when it comes to patient care, client services, or improved clinical outcomes.  At the same time, I also see how systems often fight a battle (or dance the dialectic) between mandates at the front door and treatment once the threshold is crossed.  System operations and clinical operations are often at odds with each other, especially when staffing is short, and need is high. 

I see so many systems work so hard to implement evidence-based practices, only to have well intentioned service oriented mandates undermine treatment provision once the client enters the “building”.  We are so focused on access to services that systems and clinicians are overwhelmed managing assessments and intakes that provision of a comprehensive treatment like DBT feels impossible.  I watch so many attendees at training “step out” to manage a crisis, which often serves to reinforce escalating behavior.  I hear so many administrators talk about the crushing impact of turnover when the provision of evidence based practices are treated like “treatment as usual” with little accommodation afforded to the clinician who is taking on more work with harder clients. 

DBT is not treatment as usual.  Crises and acuity will not go down without a comprehensive treatment intervention and a comprehensive treatment intervention cannot be learned without training, practice and time.  I see so many funders, administrators, teams and clinicians who are completely dedicated to evidence-based treatment and yet system constructs and expectations don’t allow for the learning or provision of comprehensive treatments like DBT.  So, what to do?

I’ll always defer to the basics as they tend to get us through the big stuff.  I would start with the idea that we are better off dedicating 15 minutes of training every day versus 2 hours once a week.  The 15 minutes can be all at once but might even be more manageable if broken into three 5-minute increments.  Either way, a little bit every day is more effective than 2 hours once a week.  Make a list of things to do and take them one at a time.  Start by employing skills in every way you can – both as an effective way to learn the skills and because the skills will help you effectively navigate your system.  Observe and describe one mindfully and non-judgmentally.  This will lead to a “to do” list and that will lead to action steps.  Find a white board, a pot of coffee and your tribe and start thinking out loud.  It is shocking how much can be articulated and accomplished with a small group of people working towards the same goals. Start using DEAR MAN in every situation and rely on the skill of broken record.  Both will do wonders to get the doors to open and to keep you walking towards your goals. 

As Marsha Linehan would often say, she never met anyone who woke up in the morning wanting to be a mental health patient.  Not one.  I’ve never worked with a system that works toward providing ineffective treatment.  Not one.  Behavior is reinforced and shaped over time.  Change is hard and takes time, but is always an option.  The most effective thing we can do to change the system is to change our thinking that our systems are unchangeable.  It takes time and it is always within our purview.  As the saying goes, the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.  Let’s start walking together. 

Are We Losing DBT Therapists to Burn Out?

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the March 2023 E-News

DBT has consultation team that is designed to decrease burnout and increase balance in its therapists.  However, there are still many therapists who quit doing DBT and/or any type of therapy because of the pressure.  Many of these therapists have said that burnout was a variable in their leaving DBT.  This video poses questions that we may need to consider in how we are treating each other and invites the DBT community to work on solving the problem of therapist attrition. 

What is Hopelessness?

Insights from Shari Manning, Ph.D./ From the November 2022 E-News

What is hopelessness?
Is it an emotion?
Is it thoughts?

Shari Manning shares what hopelessness is and how to treat hopeless thoughts when they show up in session or in our clients’ lives. 

DBT Lite?

Insights from Helen Best, M.Ed./ From the November 2022 E-News

We are often asked in training and consultation, how to do “DBT lite” when the team or program doesn’t have the time or resources to provide comprehensive DBT. 

Clinicians, teams, and/or leadership want to offer DBT as a treatment option for clients and patients, and at the same time, many are struggling greatly with the demands of supporting a comprehensive program with the current staffing challenges. 

Standard thinking generally goes to a “skills only” model, as “something is better than nothing”, and groups reach more people and are easier to implement.  For administrators or overburdened clinicians with high demand, the thinking makes sense.  The DBT skills modules are specific, give immediately useful tools, and groups offer support for specific populations – adolescents, SUD, families, etc.    

The challenges arise when managing different situations that arise without the other modes of DBT in place –

  • Who manages out of session crises or generalizes the new behavior to all relevant contexts (coaching)? 

  • How do you improve motivation or help clients identify and understand problem behaviors to get those behaviors down while using new skillful behaviors instead (DBT individual therapy)? 

  • How do you keep therapists in the game when they are treating complex clients with suicide and non suicidal self injurious behaviors, with high emotional, behavioral, and cognitive dysregulation (consultation team)?


I think of a “skills only” model like building a house without plumbing or electricity.  It can be incredibly effective with providing shelter and care.  It also requires more daily work managing water, warmth, cooking and waste.  It takes more to build the house with electricity and plumbing on the front end, but so much less work to manage and maintain on an ongoing basis.  Even houses that are off the grid require a tremendous amount of frontend work and thinking to support those components of living in a creative and effective way (water, warmth, cooking and waste). 

So, the answer I give when asked about a “skills only” model is to say, no matter what, the work of managing clients and program needs will happen – the only question is whether you want to build on the front end or clean up on the back end?